Knights of the old republic

Broliv · Post by **Broliv** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:40 pm

Yeah it was fusion not fission. (they got the fusion reactor working but its still temprimental) Fission at a rudimentary but usable level was achieved just towards the end of the second world war. And yes i agree with Vort. But at another point, we're talking about science fiction here, the technology in these stories is literally the imagination of the writers, some times the writes can't think of more stuff to write about, and i think that this is the case with the new games like KotOR. The story is set 4000 years before the earliest set starwars game. It would require the developers to not look forward but to infact look backward. Which just imagining the technological level 2000 years ago its difficult to see how someone who is writing a story that is based on another story of fiction set way in the past of that. Anything could happen in said story. But where do you begin? Whats the technological level of this society as it was then compared with the more present one. Its a nightmare for a writer. SO they probably just de-evolved some of the technology and said yeah "4000 years in the past, that will do".

I still agree with Vort's reasoning that governments stagnate achievement when they set a standard to reach. But we have to realise that the timeframe for this game was set by lucas arts and then probably given to a development team of computer game designers. They arn't writers. Yes they could come up with really good ideas but i feel that they havn't thought about the asthetics or time that the game was set compared to JKII. 4000 years is too big a gap, if anything i'd say it looks more like a 500 and thats at a push.

Syrtaras · Post by **Syrtaras** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:45 pm

Bro: The KotOR era was described in tons of comics. The good and evil Jedi Knights Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma and whatever their names are, as well as the technology of that area, have existed in fiction way before this game was released. So, all the game designers did was wrap all this fictional background into the gift paper that is one of the most intriguing pieces of computer game adventure ever made. No more, no less. ;-)

As for the reasons of the lack of technological progress, I agree with you in that the writers just can't come up with anything more. What more can be expected from them than hyperdrives, blaster cannons, lightsabres, cloaking devices, giant space stations etc.? And the Republic is supposed to have existed for a thousand generations. Now, if you think of the young Republic as an interplanetary coalition, you can see that development over those one thousand generations had to be minimal. So, your average author will just assume that, at any given time in between the foundation of the Republic and the battle of Endor, everything was mostly the same - apart from the fashion style and the ship designs, which can be used to make a time setting unique. :P

Broliv · Post by **Broliv** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:47 am

Thats true, i just think that it doesn't seem like 4000 years. You could get away with saying its 500 years at a push but thats as far as i would push it, otherwise you'd get people like us having discussions over a civilisation that doesn't exist

Wedge · Post by **Wedge** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:51 am

Vort: Unfortunately for us it seems all the writers have not read, or more likely ignored, part or all of Dyson's work. Then again if they had followed his work extensively the Star Wars universe would not be the one that we know and love, so I guess it's a fair trade.

I've had a chance to look at some of the ships and tech from KotOR and I have to admit that the pictures i've seen of the Ebon Hawk look nothing like a Corellian Corvette. The technoledgy is quite different, though I do agree with the assesment that it is nowhere near as regressed as I'd expect from something set four thousand years in the past. Then again once a civilization reaches a certain point there is remarkably little it can do to progress further without radical change, besides streamlining and modifying existing technoldegy. So while I expect the tech of KotOR to look and feel differently, I also not suprised to find out that most of it is fundamentally the same as the tech in the Triology.

AD Polanski · Post by **AD Polanski** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:43 am

I thought it looked like the Corvette as there is a "whole" on the left at the front (yeah, I dont know my ship terms) and the insides are very similar, together with the manning of guns (up and down a ladder in the middle).

Broliv · Post by **Broliv** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:08 pm

Eh? Do you mean the falcon? AFAIK there where no shots of people being in gun turrets on the Corvet in the first movie and the ship type wasn't seen again till episode 6 (rotj) It was only in the Falcon that anyone was seen in the turrets.

Broliv · Post by **Broliv** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:08 pm

Eh? Do you mean the falcon? AFAIK there where no shots of people being in gun turrets on the Corvet in the first movie and the ship type wasn't seen again till episode 6 (rotj) It was only in the Falcon that anyone was seen in the turrets. And the ISD and death Star

AD Polanski · Post by **AD Polanski** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:19 pm

Ok, so i confused the names

I did mean the Corellian freighter..