EAW and GB

Davin Felth · Post by **Davin Felth** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:03 pm

This is something I've been wanting to rant/say ever since my cousin baught EAW. He said it's supposed to be in relations with the GB games, but the whole game is just based on combat. No "tedious" resource collecting, or anything of that sort but that's what I liked about the GB games. EAW shouldn't have been based on just combat and strategy, leave that to games like BF, etc. Anyone agree?

Munro Burton · Post by **Munro Burton** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:41 pm

I haven't seen anything out of LucasArts that said EaW was supposed to be a sequel or anything to SWGB. Two very different games. At most(and I paraphase) it's "The first Star Wars RTS game since Galactic Battlegrounds."

And as for it being based completely on combat and strategy, that's untrue. You will note that there's only one resource - credits - which are used both in SP/MP, land/space/campaign maps. Sure, it may be simple, but it's still resource management.

Post by **Jagged Fel** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:07 pm

Also, resource collecting sucks

Davin Felth · Post by **Davin Felth** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:31 pm

Interesting. Ahh I should have known, my cousin's always wrong

It may suck for some, but for people like me (or I could be the only one), resource collecting MAKES the game!

ALT Jim · Post by **ALT Jim** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:16 pm

I must admit I prefer games with more resource management, I feel it gives some extra depth to a game, however that said, I actually suck more at games with more resource management

Munro Burton · Post by **Munro Burton** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:26 pm

Conclusion: You enjoy sucking.

As for resource management games, I prefer games similiar to the Homeworld series. Speaking of... mmm. Sajuuk calls me! *pops Homeworld 2 cd into the drive and disappears*

Davin Felth · Post by **Davin Felth** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:50 pm

ALT Jim wrote:I must admit I prefer games with more resource management, I feel it gives some extra depth to a game, however that said, I actually suck more at games with more resource management

Exactly! More depth! There should be more things than JUST combat.

I suck at games with resources too. That's why in GB I play Deathmatches..I like starting with over 4000 of everything so I don't have to collect it!

Munro Burton · Post by **Munro Burton** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:47 pm

4k of each isn't enough. That's why I spend it all on setting up a resource infastructure.

Post by **Jagged Fel** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:53 pm

... and hope the game doesn't last long enough so you're relying on just Spaceports to get resources

Davin Felth · Post by **Davin Felth** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:16 am

Very true. I don't buy recources from Spaceports too often; I mainly invade my enemy's rescource mine, wall-and-gate it and ship security troops over there, that is, if I run low on supplies.

Wedge · Post by **Wedge** » Mon May 01, 2006 7:52 am

Davin Felth wrote:
ALT Jim wrote:I must admit I prefer games with more resource management, I feel it gives some extra depth to a game, however that said, I actually suck more at games with more resource management
Exactly! More depth! There should be more things than JUST combat.

I suck at games with resources too. That's why in GB I play Deathmatches..I like starting with over 4000 of everything so I don't have to collect it!

I also prefer games with more complex forms of resource management, mostly because I'm good at it. Many a foe can be vaquished merely with the power of your unstopable economy. Because if you've got the credits, you can buy the ships.

Lately I've been playing good ol' Rebellion on hard, but I have to give the enemy AI a handicap. Basically I play as the Empire (Of course), lock down about four sectors (Usually Swesswenna, Corellia and on the Rim), maximize resource output and build a nice fleet for each sector, and then I just let the other guy try to come at me. So far results are mixed. the AI likes to stick it's head in the sand alot. But it does make for some large battles when the AI decides to come and play.

CM Jamie · Post by **CM Jamie** » Mon May 01, 2006 7:11 pm

Ah good ol' Rebellion (Supremacy here) I love that game, played it not that long ago, me and Benton used to online it a lot

Munro Burton · Post by **Munro Burton** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:37 pm

Jagged Fel wrote:... and hope the game doesn't last long enough so you're relying on just Spaceports to get resources

That's how I got the highscore on the GB mission for the Band of Brothers(March Edition). Wiped out the enemy, built up defenses around the remants of the traitor base and ran hovercrafts from my spaceport to the (defeated) main pirates' spaceport. Left the game running for a few hours. Big number nobody's going to beat. And if they do, I have the scenario saved right before I ended it, so I can just keep going for a higher HS.

Calder · Post by **Calder** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:55 pm

As Admiral Fel will attest, I have a very good record with RTS games, and part of what I attribute my success to is always having a very good economy. Out-producing your opponent is the easist way to win. I think I talked about economics in one of my strategy essays that (I think) are still in the archives.

The key is to have as many resources for yourself, while also depriving the enemy. Simply sitting back and amassing isn't enough: you have to actively harass the opponent's supply infrastructure. In GB, I found (even playing with the Empire and it's relatively weak air force) you only needed a handful of fighters to swoop in, kill a bunch of workers, and get out. Killing farmers seemed to work the best, because they tended to be relatively stationary while being grouped very close together.

Do it when you have a bunch of nova on hand, and since the Bothan spynet price was dependent on how many enemy workers are out there, you hinder the enemy's supply efforts while getting yourself a discount on a very useful technology.

Post by **Jagged Fel** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:13 pm

Yeah, using the Fighters v Workers technique is something I regularly employ, although sometimes it's just to distract the military forces to ease the approach of an assault group.